Friday, January 30, 2015

Southampton’s European Roster Issues

Given the high likelihood, albeit not anything near a certainty yet, that Southampton will qualify for Europe next year, I thought I would look at the UEFA rules governing rosters—particularly those that involve home grown players.  I have been working on this post for a little while, but decided to delay it until we knew whether Jack Cork was being transferred.  For the purposes of this discussion, I assume that we have the option to retain all our loan players (both in and out) except those whose contracts are expiring.

The roster rules are the same for the Europa League and the Champions League and can be found here and here.   I am using the rules for the current season and assuming that they will be unchanged—except for age cutoff date—next season.

Each club is required to submit two different roster lists at each registration deadline.  The registration deadlines occur immediately prior to each qualification/playoff round, the group stage, and the knock out stage.  There are limitations on registering players who have already played for someone else in the same competition during the same season, but those limits do not matter right now.

The “B” list is the easier to explain.  A player is eligible to be place on Southampton’s “B” list if they were born on or after 1 January 1994 and were eligible to play for Southampton for any two uninterrupted years since their 15th birthday.  If they are 16, then need to have been registered with Southampton for the last two years.  There is no limit to the number of players who can be registered on the B list.
I went through the official Southampton FC website (and other sources—but not Football Manager) and came up with a list of 27 B list eligible players for next season.  I chose to stop my list with the second year scholars because the younger players are unlikely to play for us in Europe next year.  Very likely all the first year scholars would also be eligible for the B list. 
One second year scholar, Marcus Barnes, does not appear to be eligible for the B list because he has not been with the club long enough, but it is close.  He would be eligible for the knockout stage B list.  I doubt he will play in European competition next year, but he would have to be registered on the A list to be eligible for the earlier phases of the competition.
Southampton can register up to 25 players on the A list.  However, at least eight players must be “locally trained” and at least four of those players must be “club-trained.”  The other four can be “association-trained.”
“Club-trained” players are ones who have been registered with Southampton for three full seasons between ages 15 and 21.  The seasons can include the ones where the player turns 15 or 21.  Thus, Morgan Schneiderlin is club-trained.  He was born on 8 November 1989.  He came to Southampton at age 18 in 2008 and was registered with us for the next three full seasons—the seasons during which he turned 19, 20, and 21. I think he would also qualify as club-trained at Strasbourg because he was registered with them in the seasons he turned 15, 16, 17, and 18.
As best I can tell, the only other player who qualifies as club-trained is Lloyd Isgrove who joined Southampton at age nine and has been here ever since except for a single loan spell which does not disqualify him.
An “association-trained” player is one who has been registered with one or more clubs from the same association for three seasons or 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21.  Obviously, all club-trained players are also association-trained players for the nation in which the club is registered.  Our association-trained players are all pretty obvious except for American Cody Cropper who was registered with Ipswich Town before he turned 18. (See here.) 
If a club does not have enough club-trained or association-trained players, it must leave the roster spots empty.  This means that, right now, our A list could only have 23 players on it because we do not have enough club-trained players.  This is not a real problem right now because we only have 24 players to fit onto the A list and that includes Barnes, Osvaldo, and Ramirez.  (I am assuming that Ramirez and Osvaldo are finished here—although I do list them.) It does represent a potential problem if we transfer in more than two new players this summer.
Not surprisingly, these rules make Morgan Schneiderlin very important.  We cannot fully replace him.  We might be able to replace him on the field, but we cannot replace his roster spot.  If he goes in the summer, we can only register 22 players on the A list.
Isgrove is also important.  Unless the club decides that he is worse than no one, he must (and, therefore, probably will) be retained for next season.
Our low number of club-trained players probably seems strange given our history of bringing young academy players into the first team, but it really isn’t.  The academy players who are under 21 get registered on the B list.  If we had needed to register for Europe in 2013-2014, our only club-trained players would have been Schneiderlin and Lallana.  This year it would have been Schneiderlin and no one else.
These rules create the possibility of some rather strange (but unlikely) transfer decisions.  If we bought Nathan Dyer from Swansea, he would count as a club-trained player for us.  I do not mean to suggest that such a transfer is likely, but Dyer would not take up an extra European roster slot.  (Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott, and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlin would also help in this same way.  Maybe we should offer to take a couple of them on loan next season.)
This does not mean that we will be short of players to compete next season.  Our B list contains Ward-Prowse, Reed, Targett, and Gallagher all of whom will play for us next season.  Very likely if we are playing in Europe Mayuka will not be on the roster and Rodriguez will either be healthy or replaced.   I also think it is unlikely that our back up goalies will be Davis, Cropper, and Gazzaniga.
That being said, we do have limited flexibility.  We would want to keep our two club-trained players, five association-trained players, and ten other players leaving only six openings for additional players which needs to include any backup goalie upgrades.  (The numbers change if loaned players are not retained.)
This is the jigsaw puzzle now facing the club’s management, with the additional problem that they do not yet know whether we are going to be playing in Europe or at what level.  Lots more money is available to purchase new players if we are in the Champions League, but unless we finish third or higher we cannot count on having that money.  The fourth place playoff is not played until late in the transfer window.  It may well be that an additional consequence of losing that playoff will be the sale of Schneiderlin and Clyne to clubs that are still in the competition.  This is probably one reason why Clyne’s contract status needs to be resolved sooner than Schneiderlin’s.
It is also difficult for the club to determine whether it needs to buy English players.  We could lose Bertrand, Clyne, and Rodriguez this summer.  That would leave us with only five players for the four association-trained slots, but that includes Barnes, Cropper, and Kelvin Davis.  Obviously, we would need to upgrade on that selection.  On the other hand, if we keep two of the three potential departees we do not need to buy English.
The jigsaw puzzle is further complicated by the more stringent European Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules and (these days) exchange rates.  Southampton lost £12 million in 2012 and £7 million in 2013.  While the FFP loses are less than that, a similar loss for last season would have Southampton pushing right at the limits of what is permitted by UEFA—especially given the fall in value of the Euro.  If Southampton is heading for a profit this year, that sign of progress will undoubtedly negate any real problems with UEFA, but that is a reason to delay finalizing any transactions past 30 June 2015 so that the profit on last summer’s transfers shows up as a bottom line profit this year.
There are, of course, other complications which I cannot ascertain either because I do not have access to the necessary information or because I know absolutely nothing about them.
In any case, here is the roster eligibility list I compiled:
A LIST PLAYERS
Other                    Association Trained         Club Trained
Alderweireld        Bertrand                              Isgrove
Elia                        Barnes                                  Schneiderlin
Fonte                    Clyne 
Gardos                 Cropper
Gazzaniga            Davis, K
Long                      Davis, S
Mane                    Forster
Mayuka                Rodriguez
Osvaldo
Pelle
Ramirez
Tadic
Wanyama
Yoshida
B LIST PLAYERS
Britt
Clinton
Deasy
Debayo
Demkiv
Gallagher
Gape
Hesketh
Irvine
Isted
Johnson
Little
Mason
McCarthy
McQueen
Mugabi
Reed
Regis
Rowe
Seager
Sims
Sinclair
Stephens
Targett
Turnbull
Ward-Prowse
Wood

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